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Posted - 03/07/2009 :  6:06:47 PM  Show Profile Send P a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I talked to Payroll a little bit today about the radios and he recommended we just get the regular FRS radios. He confirmed that our commander for the Dredd game will be able to contact us on our channel. It's not necessarily encrypted or anything but it won't really matter since the maps are coded.

Payroll did I get that right?
Bart?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8805028&type=product&id=1209165020396

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Posted - 03/08/2009 :  10:05:22 AM  Show Profile Send Painter a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sam and I are working on getting some 4 to 5 watt, 100 to 200 channel radios which will be compatible with Damjans radios...we will have to program them together. The ones you want should work with them ...Ill check to make sure.
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Posted - 03/08/2009 :  12:09:18 PM  Show Profile Send P a Private Message  Reply with Quote
All I really care about is that it's small, llightweight and isn't too expensive.

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Posted - 03/08/2009 :  5:13:58 PM  Show Profile Send Painter a Private Message  Reply with Quote
check out these sites. I am still doing the R&D

http://www.asiaradiosales.com/

Make sure you go through all the pages
http://www.asiaradiosales.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=139

http://www.radio-factory.com/puxing-px888-vhf-encodes-and-decode-programmable-p-2611.html


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Posted - 03/09/2009 :  09:05:40 AM  Show Profile Send P a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Painter

check out these sites. I am still doing the R&D

http://www.asiaradiosales.com/

Make sure you go through all the pages
http://www.asiaradiosales.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=139

http://www.radio-factory.com/puxing-px888-vhf-encodes-and-decode-programmable-p-2611.html





those look pretty reasonable. I'll leave it up to you to sort out what we really need. Some of them are not that much more than the ones I founds so if there's an added benefit to the UHF band then we'll go with that.

What is the advantage of UHF over VHF or FRS or GMRS etc.?
Will any programmable UHF radio work?

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Painter
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Posted - 03/09/2009 :  09:32:04 AM  Show Profile Send Painter a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here is some interesting info on radio basics that will answer some of your questions.
http://www.wirelessintercomsonline.com/downloads/How%20to%20Choose%20a%20Two-Way%20Radio.pdf

Here are some good reviews
http://www.eham.net/reviews/products/49
Im thinking
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6221
or
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6220(the price is actually $115)
We will also have to add some shipping and accessories



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Posted - 03/09/2009 :  09:39:14 AM  Show Profile Send Painter a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I will order by the end the week or following Monday let me know who all wants one.

Edited by - Painter on 03/09/2009 09:39:52 AM
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Posted - 03/09/2009 :  09:45:41 AM  Show Profile Send P a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Painter

I will order by the end the week or following Monday let me know who all wants one.



I still don't understand the benefit of UHF

There are 2 main concerns:
1. Channel frequency
What is better about the higher frequency of UHF?

2. Channel security
secured channels are not limited to UHF radios. There are radios that offer secure channels in almost all frequencies.

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Painter
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Posted - 03/09/2009 :  10:13:16 AM  Show Profile Send Painter a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The article in my last post explains the differences.

"If you are working mostly outdoors, a VHF radio is probably the best choice, especially if you
are using a base station radio indoors and you add the external antenna. The higher you can place
the antenna, the further you can transmit and receive. One exception to using a VHF radio
outdoors is if you are using it in a heavily wooded area. Under these conditions a UHF radio may
be able to transmit better though the trees."
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Posted - 03/09/2009 :  10:15:30 AM  Show Profile Send Painter a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The second choice I had in my post has both UHF and VHF
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Posted - 03/09/2009 :  10:28:43 AM  Show Profile Send P a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Painter

The second choice I had in my post has both UHF and VHF



why not FRS or GMRS like Payroll suggested?
as long as it has secured channels whats the diff?

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Posted - 03/09/2009 :  11:34:38 AM  Show Profile Send Painter a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Have you read the spec and reveiws? Well you need to.
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Posted - 03/09/2009 :  11:37:10 AM  Show Profile Send P a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Painter

Have you read the spec and reveiws? Well you need to.



yes I have read them
I still have the same questions

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Posted - 03/09/2009 :  11:38:43 AM  Show Profile Send P a Private Message  Reply with Quote
By whats the difference I mean from our point of view, not the technology


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Posted - 03/09/2009 :  11:56:44 AM  Show Profile Send P a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Painter

The article in my last post explains the differences.

"If you are working mostly outdoors, a VHF radio is probably the best choice, especially if you
are using a base station radio indoors and you add the external antenna. The higher you can place
the antenna, the further you can transmit and receive. One exception to using a VHF radio
outdoors is if you are using it in a heavily wooded area. Under these conditions a UHF radio may
be able to transmit better though the trees."



I'm not sure if you understood what I was asking.
I'm not asking the difference between UHF & VHF. I can google and find the answer to that.

My question is what is the advantage, from our point of view, to go with UHF/VHF vs FRS/GMRS? I don't see that it really matters.


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Painter
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Posted - 03/09/2009 :  4:26:18 PM  Show Profile Send Painter a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Did you change your radio link? How many watts is this one?
Also,
GMRS/FRS is UHF (450-470)MHZ

I am checking to see if there compatable with the two Im looking at.

Can you talk to anyone with UHF or only GMRS/FRS?



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